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Edmonton Journal Yesterday at 9:06am · According to Clayton, the government provided no coherent explanation for why so many records were blacked out.------ Julie Ali Julie Ali I asked for the Protection for Persons in Care investigation for my handicapped sister. The folks in government provided me with 98 pages disclosed in part out of a total of 533 pages. 409 pages were totally withheld. Of the 98 pages that were disclosed in part I could barely make out what was being revealed -it was mostly blank. The secrecy of the GOA is appalling and a threat to democracy. This was just one request for information. I also asked for the deaths of prisoners in police custody in terms of their fatality reports. These are public documents that you simply ask Alberta Justice for. I got told that I would get the reports and then they kept me waiting months without telling me that they were creating a site where the public could access the fatality reports. Then when I was told to go to the public site, they said that historical fatality reports (i.e. those not yet uploaded) would be done as time permits. What the heck? I asked for information. I should have got it in a timely manner. Instead the government was not appropriate and failed to provide the information in a timely manner. Then the government simply tells me that some information is "historical" and can't be provided yet. This is information about dead people. There are no privacy problems. It's a poor performance by this government and basically an indication of the chaos behind the spin.--------

According to Clayton, the government provided no coherent explanation for why so many records were blacked out.
"It strikes to the very core of my ability to do my job and hold ministries accountable." — Jill Clayton
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Julie Ali I asked for the Protection for Persons in Care investigation for my handicapped sister. The folks in government provided me with 98 pages disclosed in part out of a total of 533 pages. 409 pages were totally withheld. Of the 98 pages that were disclosed in part I could barely make out what was being revealed -it was mostly blank. The secrecy of the GOA is appalling and a threat to democracy. This was just one request for information. I also asked for the deaths of prisoners in police custody in terms of their fatality reports. These are public documents that you simply ask Alberta Justice for. I got told that I would get the reports and then they kept me waiting months without telling me that they were creating a site where the public could access the fatality reports. Then when I was told to go to the public site, they said that historical fatality reports (i.e. those not yet uploaded) would be done as time permits. What the heck? I asked for information. I should have got it in a timely manner. Instead the government was not appropriate and failed to provide the information in a timely manner. Then the government simply tells me that some information is "historical" and can't be provided yet. This is information about dead people. There are no privacy problems. It's a poor performance by this government and basically an indication of the chaos behind the spin.
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Jerry Macdonald The irony of this makes one's teeth hurt. If anyone in government has the right to see government information, it's the OIPC. It's all too clear that the issue rests squarely with the entrenched bureaucracy that is the public service, not the elected government of the day. Maybe the only solution is for the stubbornest heads to roll to demonstrate that the current government is serious about openness.
Mark Pearson Operating a government and changing the direction and culture has been likened to trying to alter the course of an ocean liner. It takes time.
Neil JP Stephens Wrong Jerry. It may seem that way at first glance but I'ld suggest a longer look might tell the tale in greater detail. Perhaps read my comments here to Mark and Kimberly and that should open your eyes a little.
Chris Spady The PC's just didn't want the public to know all the back room deals they made for their "supporters" and certainly not how much they were paid or given in grants.
Julie Ali Mark Pearson Pardon me? It takes time. And yet the NDP are able to make legislation that suits their needs at the speed of sound. I've heard this excuse before that things take time. Why should openness and accountability take time when it just takes a minister speaking and telling us the facts of a case as in this particular situation where the Hoffman is also not very open:http://www.cbc.ca/.../medicare-alberta-sarah-hoffman-pure...

CBC INVESTIGATES
Friends of Medicare calls for investigation of Alberta deputy minister's ties to private health foundation
Health Minister Sarah Hoffman refuses to answer questions about potential conflict of interest
By Charles Rusnell, Jennie Russell, CBC News Posted: Apr 14, 2017 6:00 AM MTAzocar said she finds it troubling that Hoffman is unwilling to answer basic questions relating to the integrity of her ministry.
"I think that sometimes silence says a lot more than actual words," Azocar said. "Albertans need to know that they can trust their leadership, that they can trust whoever is in charge of making decisions for the greater good of Albertans.
"And this situation, I think, kind of highlights the fact that in this case, there are a lot of things that have not been done perhaps in the best way that could have been done," she added.
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Ken Kehoe The problem is Redford and all her staffers and ministers walked away with fat cheques in their pocket and are long gone. The top officials, deputy ministers, executive directors.... Are the same ones that have been there years under that same old conservative cronyism. There was never any true house cleaning. Many in government will never stand up and what is right because it is easier to pass the buck and use govt bureaucracy as a cover
Julie Ali And yet we change the government didn't we ? We hired the NDP to change the culture of the GOA. If they can't do it, let us hire the Wildrose folks.
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Neil JP Stephens To Quote: FROM: "Stephanie McLean, the minister of Service Alberta, which coordinates government response to FOIP requests":

“I’ll have to reserve judgment and say I don’t know much about it,” she said, when asked whether the government lawyer intimid
ated FOIP staff into silence. “Being a first-term appointee in government, I don’t know what’s usual or not.”

That strikes me as ministerial incompetence since her job is to oversee this issue. Has she just been coming to work and taking home a paychek without actually looking into the people and process and historical pattern of the portfolio she is paid to manage?!
Mark Pearson Not to defend the actions of the lawyer or the FOIP coordinators but to suggest that the minister should be aware of the minutia of every aspect of her department reveals an utter lack of knowledge about the size and complexity of that department and the role of the minister. Now that this has been brought to her attention if she fails to act on this matter then your criticism will be well justified and completely supported by myself and most other Albertans as well.
Kimberly Haugen To a point I agree with you. However when there has/is an ongoing investigation in the said department I struggle to believe that she was not made aware; therefore I would hope a priority would be to get the information necessary to bring herself up to date immediately. No sitting government likes surprises, especially of this magnitude.
Neil JP Stephens Mark Pearson I can appreciate your point Mark but she has had over two years to get up to speed.

The first (and absolutely required) issue in taking over a portfolio or position or business is to investigate all aspects of it so that you have a proper
 understanding of what you're buying or managing so that you can make the required improvements so as not to fall victim of the errors of the past which led to the sale of the business or the removal of the last manager, minister or ??

I run my own business. I'm not getting rich but anything that I didn't do right yesterday needs to be investigated/learned today and improved on and/or implemented tomorrow.

There is a problem. Is it a remnant of the PC's? I will agree to a "YES". BUT, at the same time, I'ld've died of starvation years ago if I took two years to get up to speed on things beneath my own purview.

There are excuses and blame and reasons and ineptitude enough in this situation to be shared by both the past and present government.

I guess we'll see what happens and how quickly and judge accordingly prior to or during the next Provincial election . . .
Neil JP Stephens Kimberly Haugen I've left a response here for Mark Pearson and I believe it is appropriate to add it here to your reply Kimberly.

I seek good governance. And the most important aspect; the very foundation; the actual true cornerstone of good governanc
e is "taking responsibility for those issues on your own desk".

I believe this issue, due to the time frame of over two years at the job, proves unequivocally that this individual needs to be replaced because had she been doing her job properly she should've noticed issues long before now and brought them forward and started to rectify them.

I understand Mark Pearsons position in his response here to Jerry MacDonald, but I think the ocean liner has sunk beneath the tidal wave of her incompetence this long into her mandate.
Nicole Wetsch Neil, the NDP were elected in May of 2015. Mclean was appointed Minister in February of 2016. How you come up with her having over two years at her job is beyond comprehension. 

Furthermore, she is minister of both Service Alberta and Status of Women.
 She oversees land titles, registries, consumer protection, housing and utilities, non-profits and charities to name just a few portions of Service Alberta. In that year she has drought payday loan fees down to the lowest in Canada, banned high pressure door to door sales of energy products and increased funsing for family violence prevention and sexual assault centres, to name a few. I'd say she has been pretty busy this last year and expecting her to know all the details of every aspect of her ministry in a year is asinine. There was an investigation, she will study the results and act accordingly, as she should. Until such time as she adopts the PC response of ignoring the issue, your comments are off base.
Neil JP Stephens Nicole Wetsch Nicole, it's still more than a year and it is a very important part of a democracy and between her and Jill Clayton this should've been dealt with already. FOIP issues have been complained about numerous times in the media prior to now and it would seem it has only become a necessity to deal with it now that Clayton can't get what she wants.

So, I would suggest my comments are NOT off base just possibly somewhat premature -and against your obviously biased viewpoint- in your opinion.

As for some of the things she's done: Some would've been done no matter who was elected. Some may be good but some are commie-pinko style control measures: Like disallowing people to sell a furnace door-to-door, etc..

And your "Troll" pic for Stan Cook says a great deal about your level of maturity and the value of your commentary here.
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Harvey Bishop Neil JP Stephens Fact is, there are so many epic screwups, from the Alberta PCs, in the last 30 years, that they couldn't be fixed in two years. These things take time to fix. In fact, there are things that the Alberta PCs did wrong, after Peter Lougheed left office, that can't be reversed. We are still seeing Alberta PC scandals showing up in the news.
Nicole Wetsch Exactly Harvey. Neil's bias is clearly showing. The NDP haven't even been in power 2 years (not over two years like he claims) and he is upset they haven't fixed the damage from 44 years of PC mismanagement. The fact they have accomplished as much as they have is impressive. Myself and the rest of the people with half a brain can buy our furnaces like we do everything else, seeking it out when we want and need to.
Mark Pearson Neil JP Stephens I also run my own business and there are only so many hours in a day and you prioritize. It is not always a case of "getting up to speed". It is more about setting priorities and dealing with immediate issues. When the NDP took office the economy had crashed and the coffers were virtually emptyno matter what anyone tells you and yes they were new. This has been trial by fire and it is looking better but it isn't over yet. Keep pushing them to work on this issue but lay off the blame game.
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Mark Pearson Neil JP Stephens I am not suggesting your level of expectation is unreasonable at this point. I merely state it as a fact. Have you ever asked yourself the genesis of this problem? Ever heard of a fellow named Ralph Klein? Where have you been all these years? Where? This is not a rhetorical question. I am holding you to account. Where have you been all these years?
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Julie Ali Harvey Bishop Time, time, time and it's running out for the NDP. Folks like me who voted them in will vote them out. We're paying big bucks to all these employees and we want change. The PCs were incompetent and I don't want excuses from the NDPCs that it takes time. They can make change pretty darn fast when it suits them. But not when it doesn't suit them.
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Julie Ali Mark Pearson Ralph Klein is gone. And this excuse is gone as well. If the NDP don't have the political will to make the changes needed in the GOA then they need to be replaced. I don't buy the time is required excuse simply because I have seen them make legislation that they want to make but they can't do the work for ordinary citizens in child welfare or in the continuing care system because they aren't willing to make the changes needed. Why be in government if you are serving yourselves only? We've gone through this junk with the PCs.
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Julie Ali Mark Pearson I think that we can blame our employees for lacking the backbone to tackle the problems left by the PCs. We can also blame our employees for no decision tree that I can determine for some of the major outlays of public dollars I think we can blame our employees first and then fire them in the next election because we happen to be their bosses.
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Stan Cook Let's see if the ndp government is willing to turn over everything before trashing previous governments. Oh , right, this is a leftist rag news release.
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Stan Cook Nicole Wetsch lmao. Another lied to, misinformed, misguided minion of the Inept ndp
Harvey Bishop Stan Cook I don't belong to any political party at all, but I do know that the Alberta PCs, after Peter Lougheed left office, were involved with some very shady stuff and the most costliest scandals in Canadian history. This is another example of that corruption.
Nicole Wetsch Stan Cook, contrary to what the brainwashed conservatives seem to think, there are other parties besides the NDP or WRP/PC. There are also many, many non NDP people who see the mismanagement of the 44 years of PC rule and don't want it repeated.
Stan Cook Nicole Wetsch did I say which political party I support? Your assumption that I support the conservatives shows that you confuse arrogance and ignorance, which by the way is a ndp supporter trait.
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Nicole Wetsch Again with assumptions. Your calling the journal a leftist rag news gave a pretty clear image where your political loyalties lie.
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Julie Ali Nicole Wetsch You are correct. We don't want it repeated in the NDP folks either. But it does seem to be repeating.
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Naomi Pedersen Wow!!! This is very concerning. I hope that something gets done to fix this issue.
Julie Ali Doubtful anything will get done. For most of my questions to Alberta Connects, I was getting a response that my questions were going to Sarah Hoffman for the longest time. I had to wait the longest time for answers and sometimes I don't get answers because I think they don't know the answers. It's troubling that the transparency is so poor but this is the legacy of the PCs continuing into the NDP error.---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <AlbertaConnects@gov.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:35 AM
Subject: RE:birth complications and deaths(ACR-403828)
To: 

**********please do not reply THIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS NOT MONITORED **********

Thank you for visiting the Alberta Government feedback web site. Following is the response to your question prepared by Health : 

Alberta Health received your inquiry. 

Your inquiry has been forwarded to Minister Hoffman's office for review and response. 

Thank you for contacting Alberta Connects.
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Vernon Wise So we the citizens have got to the point that we have to get the RCMP to raid provincial offices to get information?
Mark Pearson Shame the RCMP didn't make it to the Legislature on election night when all you could hear was the shrill drone of papers shredders working overtime.
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Len Hughes like mushrooms we r keep in the dark and fed manure---
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Tim O'Gorman Drain the swamp. lol

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