Thursday, March 9, 2017

Alberta may receive federal aid to help clean up the rising number of oil wells whose owners have gone bankrupt, with federal officials acknowledging the relevant provincial agency lacks sufficient funds. Alberta Premier Rachel Notley told reporters late Monday in Houston that she expects to have “something to announce on that in the weeks to come,” without giving details.----------While the major corporations that earn big bucks in Alberta get a hand out the poor, the sick and the seniors all through the system are left with the least amount of support. Very unfair. This sort of junk should not be tolerated by citizens. We need to write to our hires and say that the payouts to the oil and gas industry to subsidize their clean up is not warranted or acceptable. We need to say clearly that these jobs are the responsibility of the industry and we don't want public dollars allocated to this junk. It's unbelievable to me that the politicians have to lose their jobs in elections to hear what we are saying. What are we -the bank of the elite and the corporations? Is politics only about using the public bank to further the interests of political parties?----



The partners in spin get together to tell us the sad story of underfunding-deliberate and ongoing so that we pony up the cash to pay for the orphan well program liabilities. What the heck? Do they think we need to add any more debt to the ballooning public debt?

The province may get aid from Ottawa to help clean up the rising number of wells whose owners have gone…
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#AERSPIN#PSACSPIN#GOASPIN#FEDERALGOVERNMENTSPIN--really it is tiresome when all the industry and government players cry us a river of pain and tell that this pain will all go away if we pay for the costs of orphan well remediation that jolly well should be paid for by the industry.
While our seniors in continuing care get nothing we have to listen to the partners in spin talk about how they need to bail out the fricking oil and gas industry that earns BILLIONS of dollars.
How stupid do they think we are?
This stupid.
Only thing to do folks is to vote out these useless folks who are selling us a pile of manure. We do this in the next election.Not only do we have debt for no damn reason but they are adding to our public debt by taking on the oil and gas industry debt and liabilities --all for the sake of public health and safety apparently or jobs -which ever seems more palatable to the public.
SPIN everywhere I look..

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Such an incredible silence in the writing room. It makes up for the set up and  spin by the government of Alberta along with their cronies at the federal level.
We are being sold a bunch of manure that we are to eat.
It's ridiculous.

The oil and gas industry gets a pile of profits. We get minimal returns.
Then their front office of spin is organized to not collect sufficient funds to pay for the reclamation of the orphan wells.
We are in a recession with the NDP government and the Liberal government at the federal level spending our grandchildren's money through infrastructure and other projects to stimulate the moribund economy and keep our kids working.

The fact is we are screwed.
The AER needs to be revamped so it has no immunity.
The oil and gas industry should take care of its own environmental messes.
And we should kick butt.

But of course this won't happen. Folks are short sighted and don't care what happens in the future.
These are the ways of our society.

It's sad that the NDP folks and the Liberal folks have shown themselves to be no different than the PCs in terms of their abdication of the public interest.

While the major corporations that earn  big bucks in Alberta get a hand out the poor, the sick and the seniors all through the system are left with the least amount of support. Very unfair. This sort of junk should not be tolerated by citizens. We need to write to our hires and say that the payouts to the oil and gas industry to subsidize their clean up is not warranted or acceptable. We need to say clearly that these jobs are the responsibility of the industry and we don't want public dollars allocated to this junk.

It's unbelievable to me that the politicians have to lose their jobs in elections to hear what we are saying. What are we -the bank of the elite and the corporations? Is politics only about using the public bank to further the interests of political parties?

No payout.  Not one red cent. We are already incurring massive debt without taking on the debt and liabilities of the industry which by the way was set up in this way to ensure that the oil and gas industry would not have to have too onerous a responsibility while it went about earning profits like bandits. We're tired of the set up, the spin and the sell out by the government at the provincial and federal level. Do your jobs Ms. Notley and Mr. Trudeau and get the oil and gas industry to do the clean up of their orphan wells.

The incredible bull shit we have to hear from all the partners in this junk is simply mind boggling. The oil and gas industry gets their spokespeople to yap:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/federal-help-for-albertas-orphan-oil-wells-may-be-on-the-way/artic

Mark Salkeld, who heads the Petroleum Services Association of Canada, had proposed a $500-million federal loan to the industry-funded Orphan Well Association (OWA), and he said Ottawa has been looking favorably at it.
“We’re getting a positive signal,” said Salkeld, who had been in contact with federal and provincial officials on the issue. “All parties think it’s a good idea.”
Then along comes the wimpy Notley to tell us heck the federal government will do the dirty deed of using public dollars for the clean up of the industry's responsibilities that are supposed to be paid out of their own damn orphan well fund:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/federal-help-for-albertas-orphan-oil-wells-may-be-on-the-way/artic

Alberta may receive federal aid to help clean up the rising number of oil wells whose owners have gone bankrupt, with federal officials acknowledging the relevant provincial agency lacks sufficient funds.
Alberta Premier Rachel Notley told reporters late Monday in Houston that she expects to have “something to announce on that in the weeks to come,” without giving details.
We have media indicating if we don't do the work -problems will occur. Well if this is the case why doesn't the fricking government get the pollutor to pay?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/federal-help-for-albertas-orphan-oil-wells-may-be-on-the-way/artic

The number of so-called orphan wells in Canada spiked after the 2014 oil price crash as companies went bankrupt, prompting provincial officials and industry to seek federal help for remediation. If not cleaned up, old wells can contaminate soil and affect animal and human health.

Then instead of addressing the deliberate "underfunding" of the clean up program designed by all these partners the federal government wants to be a saviour with our dollars. What the heck? How stupid do all these folks think we are? This stupid apparently.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/federal-help-for-albertas-orphan-oil-wells-may-be-on-the-way/artic

While Canadian federal officials have been publicly mum on the subject, in private they have deemed that “underfunded” provincial orphan well programs do not have enough money to properly carry out their tasks, according to two 2016 internal Natural Resources briefing notes seen by Reuters.
The federal government has been giving scientific and policy advice to industry and provinces, according to one briefing note provided to Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr in August last year.







Is there no end to the industry and political opportunism? When will citizens kick government rump?
I guess only at the next election. Really it is tiresome with all these folks in government who do not represent the public interest but are selling us a whole pile of manure that was left by the oil and gas industry with the full cooperation of the government of Alberta and its political partners.

Then industry expects us to believe that the root of this pernicious problem will be addressed by the very folks who set up this agreeable situation in the first place?  Mind boggling. The oil and gas industry will never increase their costs because you know what? Government will never do this and the industry won't decrease their profits. That's not the Alberta way.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/federal-help-for-albertas-orphan-oil-wells-may-be-on-the-way/article34230

Meanwhile, the OWA said it might need more funding in the future, and that increasing industry levies is an option.
“(Higher) costs are not regarded favorably, but ... we’ve got to step up,” said OWA chairman Brad Herald, who is also vice-president of western operations for the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers industry lobby group.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/federal-help-for-albertas-orphan-oil-wells-may-be-on-the-way/article34230

Federal help for Alberta’s orphan oil wells may be on the way

ETHAN LOU
CALGARY — Reuters
Published Tuesday, Mar. 07, 2017 1:53PM EST
Last updated Tuesday, Mar. 07, 2017 2:20PM EST
Alberta may receive federal aid to help clean up the rising number of oil wells whose owners have gone bankrupt, with federal officials acknowledging the relevant provincial agency lacks sufficient funds.
Alberta Premier Rachel Notley told reporters late Monday in Houston that she expects to have “something to announce on that in the weeks to come,” without giving details.
The number of so-called orphan wells in Canada spiked after the 2014 oil price crash as companies went bankrupt, prompting provincial officials and industry to seek federal help for remediation. If not cleaned up, old wells can contaminate soil and affect animal and human health.
The federal Natural Resources ministry said it could not immediately comment. Last week, ministry spokeswoman Tania Pereira said the government is reviewing proposals but noted orphan wells are legally a provincial responsibility.
While Canadian federal officials have been publicly mum on the subject, in private they have deemed that “underfunded” provincial orphan well programs do not have enough money to properly carry out their tasks, according to two 2016 internal Natural Resources briefing notes seen by Reuters.
The federal government has been giving scientific and policy advice to industry and provinces, according to one briefing note provided to Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr in August last year.
Alberta, which produces about 80 per cent of Canada’s crude, has more than 1,500 orphan wells, up from 26 in 2012.
It was unclear what specifically the potential further federal help would be. In a legislative speech outlining its priorities last week, the Alberta government said it will work “with Ottawa to create good oilfield service industry jobs” to tackle the orphan wells issue.
Mark Salkeld, who heads the Petroleum Services Association of Canada, had proposed a $500-million federal loan to the industry-funded Orphan Well Association (OWA), and he said Ottawa has been looking favorably at it.
“We’re getting a positive signal,” said Salkeld, who had been in contact with federal and provincial officials on the issue. “All parties think it’s a good idea.”
Meanwhile, the OWA said it might need more funding in the future, and that increasing industry levies is an option.
“(Higher) costs are not regarded favorably, but ... we’ve got to step up,” said OWA chairman Brad Herald, who is also vice-president of western operations for the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers industry lobby group.

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