have you made a war out of your heart?

Saturday, August 11, 2012

have you made a war out of your heart?


have you learned your lessons as well as you could have?
have you poured yourself out entirely and made not a drop
of your soul an acid throw? have you given your mask away
a dozen times and shown yourself naked to the beloved? and if not
why not? the world aches for this sort of courage and you have failed
if you have not done any of these works

have you grown a garden of words and laid the root cellar full of your harvest?
have you gone out into the world and faced each lie with your sword and cut down
as much of that thicket down? have you made a war out of your heart? have you taken
down all those who would harm the ones who are powerless? have you been shield and cry?
have you done the good work? and if not why not? why have you not spoken up and given your blood
for the cause which is the cause of all of mankind? why have you not laid your life on the line?

the line of poetry the line of language the line of acts of courage?
why have you stayed silent while the homeless walked by your home?
why have you not spoken for the hungry? why have you kept quiet when we have been lied to?
why have you not taken out your soul from its burial ground and given it up in life to do the work
of love? I ask you this not to make you ashamed or restless I ask you this because I am curious
how can you let your children live and yet keep silent when their children die?

how can you do this?

Saturday, August 30, 2014

now let us look at the evidence

now let us look at the evidence
and let us speak
despite the money rolling into the coffers
there is no one to look out for us
we must watch our backs and work for ourselves
we have to be the government


now let us look at the evidence
how it is manipulated
to force us into compliance
and then teach us obedience
their authority must not be bent 
we have to be the government

now let us look at the evidence
at how we are kept heifers and steers
we are shown who is in charge of the people
we are treated as the employees rather than the employers
because we have no power      other when we evict them 
we have to be the government


now let us look at the evidence
democracy has been subverted
to teach us the visions of billionaires
and how tax dollars are generated by empty buildings
in the downtown core so as to support the mania of greed
we have to be the government


now let us look at the evidence
let us plan our strategy of teaching them instead 
let us go through the proper channels
to alter the legislation      that keeps us in chains
let us use the laws of the land to defeat them
we have to be the government

now let us look at the evidence
from the media down to our big toes on the school board
 massage us into believing     that there is only way
that without the big brothers of them   we are in danger
yet we have to go to the courts to protect our rights and freedoms  from them 
we have to be the government


now let us look at the evidence
we are each capable
if you would speak   do this now
if you would act    act for us all
and do not be afraid     for we can do this
we have to be the government

now let us look at the evidence
we the people have been disposed by own government 
we pay for everything    and yet
when it is time for us to speak
we are told to mind the rules they create   and obey them 
we have to be the government



https://www.epsb.ca/ourdistrict/board/trustees/


TRUSTEES

Group photo of the Board of Trustees - 2013-2017

Back row, left to right: Orville Chubb, Ray Martin, Nathan Ip and Ken Gibson
Front row, left to right: Michelle Draper, Michael Janz, Sherry Adams, Sarah Hoffman and Cheryl Johner
The Edmonton Public School Board is responsible for the education of over 86,000 students in the city of Edmonton.
Nine Trustees are elected to the Board every four years during municipal elections. Their mandate is to ensure that students receive the best education possible in Edmonton's more than 200 public schools.

CONTACT

Cheryl Johner
Phone: 780-429-8079
E-mail: Cheryl.Johner@epsb.ca

CONTACT

Michelle Draper
Phone: 780-429-8135
E-mail: Michelle.Draper@epsb.ca

CONTACT

Orville Chubb
Phone: 780-429-8085
E-mail: Orville.Chubb@epsb.ca

CONTACT

Ray Martin
Phone: 780-429-8016
E-mail: Ray.Martin@epsb.ca

CONTACT

Ken Gibson
Phone: 780-429-8084
E-mail: Ken.Gibson@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Michael Janz
Phone: 780-429-8082
E-mail: Michael.Janz@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Sarah Hoffman
Phone: 780-429-8086
E-mail: Sarah.Hoffman@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Nathan Ip
Phone: 780-429-8083
E-mail: Nathan.Ip@epsb.ca

CONTACT

Sherry Adams
Phone: 780-429-8087
E-mail: Sherry.Adams@epsb.ca

The superintendent of schools is:


Darrel Robertson, Superintendent of Schools

Mask Duty --Thursday August 28, 2014

I leave home at 9:32 pm. I get to the Good Samaritan at 9:48 pm. Pedro is outside. He tells me that my sister has been out to the Ricky's Place to eat. I think about the calories but really I don't blame her. Institution food isn't the way to culinary heaven. Once in a while a meal out saves one's sanity.
Pedro yaps about  a new rule. Apparently they will close the doors at 10:00 pm. Since I am rarely awake enough to get to the Good Samaritan at 10 pm I wonder how I will get in. Will I have to phone staff? This is dumb I think to myself. He also shows me a door through which I can exit. But he tells me that they have to deactivate the alarm. So do I have to check with staff when I leave so I don't set off the alarm? I begin to wonder at the rules in this place. They are so odd. They seem to be clear to some of the staff and yet other staff don't seem to know about these new rules. I will check with nursing staff each day before I leave since I do not want to set off the alarm.
Then I put out the food. A few slices of pumpernickel bread, yogurt, the pudding that promises to be good without any sugar (how I don't know) and then a small container of 1% milk. Since she is no longer getting milk for a snack I decided to bring her a small carton of milk with the milk I buy for Bob. I have Bob's skim milk; I put it in the fridge while I work on my sister's room. The fact is that Bob is rather neglected is clear to me. And I will treat him as an additional family member. When I now buy my sister's 1 liter of 1% milk, I will pick up Bob a 2 liter of skim milk; how he drinks skim milk is beyond me.
I won't bug my sister to have a bath as she is not willing to do it.
I call for the mask.
At 10:35, I ask again for the mask.
Sometimes staff are busy or in the nursing meetings and this is why I am trying to get to the Good Samaritan early and stay longer so as to be assured the mask stays on her without leaking.
While I wait, I clean up the area by the sink. The dumb design of the table by the sink is that there is a stove top that cannot be used. I take out the stove elements and use the holes to support two plates with her fruit. I take away the container for drying her dishes and put it in the sink. This liberates a small amount of space for her tea and coffee; for the electric kettle and the toaster. The table space is minor. I have furniture in the place for my sister but it is mostly IKEA junk. You can't buy good furniture with nothing left from AISH. Right now my sister gets $2100 from the province of Alberta. Deduct from this a variable amount of cash from $1958.25 and under that will increase shortly and you can see that we don't have much money to work with. My parents buy her clothes and I  make sure she has chocolate money. I get her the fruits and stuff out of our family budget because I want her to have lots of fruits and extra treats. Life isn't only duration but quality of experiences.  I mean I am a bad sister and yet, I can't see how she can live like a prisoner with nothing but the institution food. For institution food it is acceptable but you can understand her going to Ricky's once in a while for junk food.
I haven't seen Lilia this week.
I will have to ask her when she is in so I can give her the data download.
From this point on it will be direct contact.
I will find out when she is in and give her the data download I got yesterday from Vitalaire.
I clean up the sink area and wash all the dishes because I can't be sure my sister does this sort of thing.
It is best to simply wash the cups, saucers, plates and utensils on  a regular basis.
Then I put away the extras on the top of the furniture nearby and keep only a few items for her to use by the kettle and the toaster.
I washed out the microwave the last time and I leave it for a clean next time around.
Marzena comes in to do the mask at 11:02.
It is nice to see her.
I like her a great deal because she is so kind to the patients. She is very good with Bob who is pretty engorged in terms of his feet and also very tuckered out.

I go to give Bob his milk.
I find him in the front and ask if I can put his skim milk in his fridge.
He is so happy to get the dumb milk and so I decide to give him three of the mandarin oranges I have for my sister. My sister won't miss them as I bring fruit every day. I seem to be at H & R Produce on a daily basis; it is on the way to the Good Sam and usually the mandarin oranges are good.
It is 11:39 pm; I think my sister is asleep.
I don't like to leave before she goes to sleep.
I am watching the show "Big Family Renovation"; I am awestruck by the happiness of the parents with their kids. I wish I was this glowing with the boys; most of the time I am tuckered out.
Here is the show I watched:
http://www.hgtv.com/my-big-family-renovation/show/index.html

A Hatmaker Home Renovation

Jen and Brandon Hatmaker — and family — take a Texas-sized plunge when they undertake the restoration of a 100-year-old farmhouse just outside Austin. What happens when a family of seven decides to take on a top-to-bottom home renovation?
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About This Show

Austin author and mom blogger Jen Hatmaker and her husband Brandon have five growing kids and a house that seems to shrink by the day. So they're selling their current home and moving into a total fixer-upper. Can this family of seven survive daily life under construction?
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The Hatmakers are on a hunt for a fixer upper house in Buda, Texas, that will fit their growing family of seven. They tour two houses, but decide to purchase a 1908 farmhouse that they can reconfigure to fit six bedrooms. They pack up the

This family is adorable but apparently this is because of the magic of film:
http://jenhatmaker.com/blog.htm

by Jen Hatmaker on August 21st, 2014

Well, let me be the first to say that TV IS INCREDIBLY GLAMOROUS. The fanciness just can hardly be described. What could be better than filming for five solid months to produce 176 minutes of television? (If you think we are so funny and charming on the show, it is only because we managed that skill set .04% of the time and that’s what they put on TV. The cutting room floor includes such gems as, “Where is the coffee?” and “Hand me that level” and “I’m tired of filming today.” RIVETING!)

How about some insider info, yes?
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The mask is making a noise.
It is now 11:49 pm.
I leave at 12:03 from the special side door.
I know it is OK to use the door as Pedro fiddled with the alarm.

I get home after 12:30 pm.  Bed.

One thing I did notice is that the evening staff seem more organized now. Could it be that Pam's influence is now spreading to the evening staff? I am no longer seeing the gaggle of socializing staff in the front. Maybe they are helping patients or simply checking up on them? So far I haven't seen much checking of my sister but maybe this occurs when I have gone home?
Pedro is the night nurse for this mask duty.

Friday, August 29, 2014

--mountain stream I'd give a zero to the Edmonton School Board.----------Debbie My guess is that this really has very little to do with giving zeros as grades. Let's get real, ...it's a pissing match between a principal and a teacher. There are many teachers who give zeros when zeros are earned and there are very many principals who support teachers who give zeros so, in my opinion, there is much more going on here.----------Joannie04 Note to Edmonton School Board. Do Not Appeal. You've looked foolish long enough; do not expose yourselves to further ridicule.-------------expatricia The Edmonton Public School Board is appealing with whose money? How much is it going to cost? Would money that has been earmarked for education fund this ridiculous exercise? How much has EPSB spent already on this matter? How many good people who read stories like this decide not to become teachers? It sounds to me like Mr. Dorval has earned his retirement.------------upbeat The principal and the school board should be fired.--------------jerryjordan a good education in life is usually ruined by schools. what an inane school board.-----Philip61 It's about time that some one did this. I had a long, heated discussion with my eldest son's teacher in 1985 saying that garbage turned in with no effort didn't deserve a passing grade for creativity. University taught him that lesson at a far greater cost. He was smart enough to learn cause and effect.---------In its written decision, the board said there was no evidence Dorval was deliberately disobeying lawful instructions. He wasn’t given a full opportunity to fight the allegations against him or ask questions during his dismissal hearing in September 2012 in front of then-superintendent Edgar Schmidt, the decision said. “In summary, it is this board’s opinion that the school board acted unfairly in the suspension of the teacher, both on the merits and on the imposition of the penalty chosen.”--------------The former physics teacher from Ross Sheppard High School didn’t follow the school’s behaviour-code policy because he had legitimate questions about whether the policy was good for students, the decision said. “In the opinion of this board of reference, the school board did not act reasonably in suspending the teacher. The implementation of the new assessment policy has several demonstrable problems.” Dorval should be repaid any money lost between when he was dismissed and when he started collecting his pension, the decision ordered. It said there’s no need for him to be reinstated.----------Two other teachers at the school who refused to use the new codes were never disciplined, the decision noted. The principal viewed Dorval’s questions about the policy as a challenge to his authority, it said. “Interestingly, he did not view the same conduct by two other teachers at the same school in the same light.” Edmonton Public Schools has sent the decision to an outside law firm for review, said Lisa Austin, spokeswoman for Edmonton Public Schools. “We will be appealing the decision,” Austin said. In April 2013, Edmonton public school trustees approved a new student-assessment policy that explicitly includes zero as a possible grade.-----

The punitive acts of the bully board of Edmonton Public Schools have now been revealed to us in the case of the no-zero teacher who was fired for telling parents of the dumb ways the administration of Edmonton Public Schools have operated with reference to kids who don't want to work. Sure there are kids with problems but usually they don't get one chance. If a kid has special needs, they are given many accommodations to make up work. But ultimately if the work isn't done the kid has to take the consequences of a zero mark. Well, this is what parents believed. We then found out that kids NEVER got zeros. That teachers had to beg them to do the work. This was ridiculous I thought and I wrote about it on the blog. The teacher who yapped to us -like most truth tellers got punitive actions against him. The teacher got fired by the administration in the blue building and the school board did their usual work of protecting the dumb administration in this act of vengeance (I mean what else could it have been other than vengeance for not being obedient?)

I was rather surprised that the teacher got canned but then I had very little idea of how powerful the superintendent of schools is. Apparently he is sort of like a god appointed by the school board to do their dirty deeds. When there is good news --he gets to announce it as well, usually along with school board trustees who are buffing up their record for further work as councillors and MLAs. The school board for most of these trustees, is all about being a springboard to further riches in government as well as the illusion of  political power since most of them won't have any power other than what their donors tell them to do or their party directs them into voting. Think of the Wildrosies with their fired school board trustee of Ms. Smith. She used to work in the Calgary school board until she got canned by the Tories with the rest of the school board for get this--not being obedient. So you see the sword can cut both ways--at both the citizen who is a teacher and the trustees who could can a teacher.

In any case, they fired the truth telling teacher. Parents yapped back at the school board trustees who were rather surprised by the intensity of the pushback from their employers. The trustees live in the jungle of education bureaucracy and only awaken once in a while when the firecrackers are lit by the parents. This time around, parents clearly understood that the no zero business results in district marks for their kids that are hyper-inflated and they did not want to have their kids getting marks that did not reflect reality. They yapped. I mean this is fine. You yap to the trustee who gets bad publicity but the teacher is still fired. And I have to tell you that the marks are still hyper-inflated. This will become apparent to most parents when their kids do the diploma exams. The diploma exam results tell me that the marks the school district is handing out to our kids are somewhat optimistic. Further education work in university or colleges like NAIT will further disillusion parents that the marks being handed out by the Edmonton Public School are fake. But this is all part of the general bullshitting that goes on about excellence in education. There is no excellence in education. There are some good teachers. There are some bright kids who work hard before they leave the education system to excel in  higher education but for the most part we have mediocre or average education and similarly average students in Edmonton Public Schools. I don't believe the hype about the marks and the supersonic performance of students in the system.

And so when this teacher yapped about the marks in terms of the no-zero policy I was further disillusioned about the education system. Most teachers are bound and gagged by their administration and it was surprising to me that this teacher opened his mouth but he was at the end of his career and perhaps he wanted to give us a present of reality before he got canned. We got the present of reality and it was useful. I mean I knew that the grades the boys were getting were inflated. But to find out that their teachers could not give them a zero for not doing their work-well that was news--and unwelcome news at that.  I mean, I appreciate they can't give younger boy a zero until he has had several chances but surely after the kid has had his chances he should get a zero for a NHI?  But apparently not.

In the end the Edmonton School Board got egg on its face. The EPS administration looked bad to parents. And the news of the teacher being right about his firing (that it was not acceptable) --is good. This is to say, that they can burn the teacher at the stake of truth--but sometimes the cat comes back. In my mind, the board should give this guy his job back even if the appeals folks say they don't  have to do it. Instead of eating crow, the school board is appealing this decision. I guess they don't want any more teachers stepping out of line and becoming targets of the superintendent. They are determined to keep the teachers obedient. The loss of a job is a powerful incentive to keep your mouth shut. But I am wondering how they will keep the parents shut up? Will they fire us too? Oh, they can't do that can they?  Will they send us to the corner?  Are we under them or are they under us? You tell me. But again it doesn't really matter. It's all a matter of we're all in this together. Until of course, the parents aren't in this together.
The board of appeals has given the school board some raps on the knuckles but I doubt this will change anything. Most school boards simply cover for the administration and do not serve the parents. It is rare to get a school board trustee to speak for a parent. And now with the new school board and the new superintendent going in the footsteps of the former superintendent of schools in their single point of contact junk, I am pretty sure it is still business as usual. And no changes other than in the chatter. But at least there is the summary of the dumb work of the board made clear to parents with reference  to Mr. Dorval:

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/edmonton/zeros+teacher+unfairly+dismissed+Edmonton+appeal/10161449/story.html

In its written decision, the board said there was no evidence Dorval was deliberately disobeying lawful instructions. He wasn’t given a full opportunity to fight the allegations against him or ask questions during his dismissal hearing in September 2012 in front of then-superintendent Edgar Schmidt, the decision said.
“In summary, it is this board’s opinion that the school board acted unfairly in the suspension of the teacher, both on the merits and on the imposition of the penalty chosen.”
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Principals, superintendents of schools and board chairs do not like to have their authority challenged for whatever reasons.
The fact that this teacher got fired and not the other teachers who dissented sends some sort of message to parents that perhaps if you in the "in" group, you can yap as you like to the people in power, but if you are in the "out" group --that sort of dissent will result in negative consequences. I mean why did the other two teachers get exempted from the firing line?
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/edmonton/zeros+teacher+unfairly+dismissed+Edmonton+appeal/10161449/story.html
Two other teachers at the school who refused to use the new codes were never disciplined, the decision noted. The principal viewed Dorval’s questions about the policy as a challenge to his authority, it said. “Interestingly, he did not view the same conduct by two other teachers at the same school in the same light.”
Edmonton Public Schools has sent the decision to an outside law firm for review, said Lisa Austin, spokeswoman for Edmonton Public Schools.
“We will be appealing the decision,” Austin said.
In April 2013, Edmonton public school trustees approved a new student-assessment policy that explicitly includes zero as a possible grade.
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This sort of singling out of a teacher for disciplinary action is sort of discriminatory in my mind. It reminds me of my own singling out for the single point of contact business. Maybe I should go yap with Mr. Dorval about being put outside the magic circle? Nah.
He's already done with this junk.
I'm still got two more years of this power and authority junk. Just two more years in the education loop at Edmonton Public Schools and I will be smiling just as Mr. Dorval is smiling here.


http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/edmonton/zeros+teacher+unfairly+dismissed+Edmonton+appeal/10161449/story.html

No-zeros teacher unfairly dismissed, Edmonton appeal decision says

BY ANDREA SANDS, EDMONTON JOURNAL AUGUST 29, 2014 8:59 PM
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No-zeros teacher unfairly dismissed, Edmonton appeal decision says

Lynden Dorval had a “long unblemished” teaching record and could have been transferred to another school that did allow zero grades, an appeal ruling says.

Photograph by: Bruce Edwards , Edmonton Journal

EDMONTON - Edmonton Public Schools shouldn’t have suspended teacher Lynden Dorval for refusing to use behaviour codes instead of zeros to grade students’ incomplete work, according to an appeal ruling Friday.
The former physics teacher from Ross Sheppard High School didn’t follow the school’s behaviour-code policy because he had legitimate questions about whether the policy was good for students, the decision said.
“In the opinion of this board of reference, the school board did not act reasonably in suspending the teacher. The implementation of the new assessment policy has several demonstrable problems.”
Dorval should be repaid any money lost between when he was dismissed and when he started collecting his pension, the decision ordered. It said there’s no need for him to be reinstated.
Dorval said he was surprised at the “strong language” in the decision and “the harshness of the criticism of the principal and superintendent.”
The decision shows teachers, students and parents weren’t properly consulted before the policy was put in place and were poorly informed afterward, Dorval added.
He expects to be compensated for just under two years worth of salary. He said he is not surprised the school district intends to appeal the ruling.
“I’m not worried.”
Dorval made national headlines during the spring of 2012, when he refused to follow the school’s new policy that required teachers stop grading with zeros and use behaviour codes. Dorval was later suspended in May 2012, then fired in September 2012.
He appealed that suspension in October to the board of reference, a quasi-judicial tribunal that deals with employment issues between school districts and their employees.
In its written decision, the board said there was no evidence Dorval was deliberately disobeying lawful instructions. He wasn’t given a full opportunity to fight the allegations against him or ask questions during his dismissal hearing in September 2012 in front of then-superintendent Edgar Schmidt, the decision said.
“In summary, it is this board’s opinion that the school board acted unfairly in the suspension of the teacher, both on the merits and on the imposition of the penalty chosen.”
Dorval had a “long unblemished” teaching record and could have been transferred to another school that did allow zero grades, the decision noted.
Both Dorval’s method that included grading students with zeros and the new policy that used behaviour codes allowed students to hand in work late, the decision said. But because the school’s computer software treated the codes as “blanks,” assignments that weren’t submitted didn’t affect students’ grades, the decision said.
“Therefore, as there was no accountability or penalty for a missing assignment in the new policy, there was little incentive for a student to actually complete the assignment,” the decision said.
Dorval would enter a zero grade and show students how an incomplete assignment would drag down their grades, a successful technique that convinced students to hand their work in late, the decision said.
“The evidence was that the use of a zero grade by the teacher was successful for him in encouraging his students to complete missed assignments,” said the written decision from the board of reference. “In fact, he had the best record in the school and perhaps in the province for completion rates.”
Two other teachers at the school who refused to use the new codes were never disciplined, the decision noted. The principal viewed Dorval’s questions about the policy as a challenge to his authority, it said. “Interestingly, he did not view the same conduct by two other teachers at the same school in the same light.”
Edmonton Public Schools has sent the decision to an outside law firm for review, said Lisa Austin, spokeswoman for Edmonton Public Schools.
“We will be appealing the decision,” Austin said.
In April 2013, Edmonton public school trustees approved a new student-assessment policy that explicitly includes zero as a possible grade.
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https://www.epsb.ca/ourdistrict/board/trustees/


TRUSTEES

Group photo of the Board of Trustees - 2013-2017

Back row, left to right: Orville Chubb, Ray Martin, Nathan Ip and Ken Gibson
Front row, left to right: Michelle Draper, Michael Janz, Sherry Adams, Sarah Hoffman and Cheryl Johner
The Edmonton Public School Board is responsible for the education of over 86,000 students in the city of Edmonton.
Nine Trustees are elected to the Board every four years during municipal elections. Their mandate is to ensure that students receive the best education possible in Edmonton's more than 200 public schools.

CONTACT

Cheryl Johner
Phone: 780-429-8079
E-mail: Cheryl.Johner@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Michelle Draper
Phone: 780-429-8135
E-mail: Michelle.Draper@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Orville Chubb
Phone: 780-429-8085
E-mail: Orville.Chubb@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Ray Martin
Phone: 780-429-8016
E-mail: Ray.Martin@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Ken Gibson
Phone: 780-429-8084
E-mail: Ken.Gibson@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Michael Janz
Phone: 780-429-8082
E-mail: Michael.Janz@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Sarah Hoffman
Phone: 780-429-8086
E-mail: Sarah.Hoffman@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Nathan Ip
Phone: 780-429-8083
E-mail: Nathan.Ip@epsb.ca


CONTACT

Sherry Adams
Phone: 780-429-8087
E-mail: Sherry.Adams@epsb.ca


The superintendent of schools is:


Darrel Robertson, Superintendent of Schools



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/lynden-dorval-fired-for-giving-zeros-treated-unfairly-appeal-board-rules-1.2751007

Lynden Dorval, fired for giving zeros, 'treated unfairly,' appeal board rules

CBC News Posted: Aug 29, 2014 4:22 PM MT Last Updated: Aug 29, 2014 5:13 PM MT
The board of reference has ordered Edmonton Public Schools to pay teacher Lynden Dorval two years' back pay after finding he was treated unfairly.
The board of reference has ordered Edmonton Public Schools to pay teacher Lynden Dorval two years' back pay after finding he was treated unfairly. (CBC )
RAW: Lynden Dorval-- no zero teacher wouldn't do things differently
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A provincial appeal board that looks into the firing of teachers has found the Edmonton Public School Board "did not act fairly" when they suspended and then fired Lynden Dorval, who broke school policy by giving zeros to his students.
"Sometimes standing up for something has an effect. It actually works," Dorval said Friday. "It was just something that was the right thing to do."
Dorval, a physics teacher at Ross Sheppard High School, was suspended in May 2012 for awarding zeros for work that wasn’t handed in or tests not taken, which went against the school’s policy.
Four months later, Dorval received a notice that he had been fired. He appealed the dismissal to the Board of Reference, which found earlier this month that he "was treated unfairly in his dismissal."
"This board finds no evidence of deliberate misconduct by the teacher, and certainly no evidence of deliberate repeated misconduct," the decision states.
The board ordered a full repayment of pay from the date of dismissal as well as a top-up of his pension.
Dorval is now retired, so the board did not order that he be reinstated.
The board also found Dorval’s original suspension in May was not justified and that he "was not permitted full opportunity" to respond to the allegations.
"The basis for the suspension appeared to be that the principal viewed any form of dissent as insubordination which was not to be tolerated, despite repeated efforts by teachers to explain why the directive interfered with their professional judgment and could result in illegitimate outcomes," the decision reads.
Edmonton Public School Board spokeswoman Lisa Austin said the ruling was disappointing and that the board would appeal.
She says the board made the decision after getting an opinion from outside legal counsel.
"They informed us that there was several grounds upon which we could appeal the decision," she said.
The school board has 30 days to file the appeal.

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    • mountain stream
    I'd give a zero to the Edmonton School Board.

    • Joannie04
    Note to Edmonton School Board. Do Not Appeal. You've looked foolish long enough; do not expose yourselves to further ridicule.

    • expatricia
    The Edmonton Public School Board is appealing with whose money? How much is it going to cost? Would money that has been earmarked for education fund this ridiculous exercise? How much has EPSB spent already on this matter? How many good people who read stories like this decide not to become teachers? 

    It sounds to me like Mr. Dorval has earned his retirement.

    • Debbie
    My guess is that this really has very little to do with giving zeros as grades. Let's get real, ...it's a pissing match between a principal and a teacher. There are many teachers who give zeros when zeros are earned and there are very many principals who support teachers who give zeros so, in my opinion, there is much more going on here.


    • jerryjordan
    a good education in life is usually ruined by schools. what an inane school board.

    • Philip61
    It's about time that some one did this. I had a long, heated discussion with my eldest son's teacher in 1985 saying that garbage turned in with no effort didn't deserve a passing grade for creativity. University taught him that lesson at a far greater cost. He was smart enough to learn cause and effect.

    • LittleBlueDot
    How much of this has to do with a policy of not passing students into the next grade when they cannot do the work of their current grade? 

    What is the retention policy of this board? 

    "Alberta schools are ranked near the tiop in the world for science and mathematical achievement." Criteria matter: How is the tested cohort chosen and by whom? At waht grade levels are the assessments being done? How many students eschew higher math and science in high school because they cannot understand those subjects even though they were pushed through them in the earlier grades? 

    I would venture a guess that the average grade 10 student today could not pass a grade 8 English test from the 40s, 50s, or 60s. If we are succeeding, remedial English courses at the university level should not be required for kids who went through any English-language grade school in Canada. 

    • jollyolly
    I am very impressed with this teacher. I am a teacher myself. All too often pushy administrators and pushy parents seek to pad and inflate student grades. This is very dangerous! To counter academic inflation and to ensure failures do not enter trades and professions, educators need to be free to give zeros to students who under perform. A single failure is NOT a total failure. Students will learn from their mistakes and get better. Attaching funding to student performance is a bad idea because it pressures teachers to pass those who are not ready. « less

    • upbeat
    The principal and the school board should be fired.
    • upbeat
    The principal and the school board should be fired.

    • Steampunk
    By all means folks, don't let a little thing like actually understanding the issue stop you from venting your spleen on the imagined irresponsible liberal school board. 

    First, let's just dispel a few myths. Kids are not getting a free ride here. The no-zero policy just means assignments not handed in do not count as zeros until the end of term. This gives the student a second chance to get the assignment in rather than be assigned a zero. 

    And, all students must write a diploma exam in grade 12 that has a weighting of 50% of the course. Students have to show they have mastered the class content to pass the course. 

    The other assumption I see people making is that standards have slipped and teachers are coddling and giving kids undeserved credit. 

    Sorry to let evidence spoil a good righteous rant, but Alberta schools are ranked near the tiop in the world for science and mathematical achievementhttp://education.alberta.ca/media/7923839/pisa2012_graph_ab_science.pdf 

    Grades are not as important as learning the material, By the way, one of the countries that finished higher than us in the PISA standing for math and science was Finland. Ironically, they don't require any marks until after grade 8. Guess that mark thing is not so important after all.« less
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    • upbeat
    @Steampunk Absolute twaddle!
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    • mba9876
    @Steampunk 

    A) So a student can wait to till the last day, hand in all of their assignments and get an unfair advantage over those students who handed it in on time - and this ok? 

    B) Grade = understanding of course. Low Grades = low understanding 

    C) Its easy to rank high with achievements if you give all of your students automatic As 


    Combine all 3 of the above and you of course have slipping (or non existent standards) and incompetant teachers. This is a given.
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    • Jim Hutchinson
    @Steampunk what you're failing to understand is that education may not always be about understanding. We need to get people ready for the working world. I'm not sure where you work, but if I missed deadlines and couldn't be arsed to hand in work when it's required and be of an acceptable standard - I'd quickly be unemployed. Telling students they do face consequences for their actions or lack there of doesn't prepare them for the working world. 
    • LittleBlueDot
    @Steampunk 
    Guess I shall tell my boss that I have to wait until the end of the fiscal year to hand in the report he needs for next week's conference. 

    School should educate AND prepare students for life. Certainly if exceptional circumstances prevail, allowing a student to hand in an assignment a bit late can be warranted, and there should be an appeal process if a request to get a late ticket is not approved. However, making this 'policy' is just SETTING KIDS UP TO FAIL IN LIFE.
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    @Steampunk 

    So, you want to set the precedent that as long as you do the work eventually, at some point, when it's convenient to you, that it's all good??? 

    I hope you would keep this idea in mind if you need, oh say... an ambulance because you are critically injured but they don't feel like responding to your 911 call because they have better things to do right now like go get a coffee...
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    • Michael1954
    @Steampunk Let me guess...You couldn't get anywhere until after grade 10....figures